[Reading] ➸ Lord of Light Author Roger Zelazny – Prestigelakesidehabitat.info

Lord of Light In my opinion, Lord of Light LOL called as science fiction because the author set the setting as far future, and using technology as the magic system But the story itself mainly influenced by Indian mythology But it was not a retelling of Indian myths The author had done the researched well, based on my very limited knowledge of Indian myth The author mixed the myths with his own story OK, in much harsher words the author was using Indian mythology for the story So please don t use LOL In my opinion, Lord of Light LOL called as science fiction because the author set the setting as far future, and using technology as the magic system But the story itself mainly influenced by Indian mythology But it was not a retelling of Indian myths The author had done the researched well, based on my very limited knowledge of Indian myth The author mixed the myths with his own story OK, in much harsher words the author was using Indian mythology for the story So please don t use LOL as a reference for Indian mythology.But the main story itself is just ok The setting based on Indian myth was definitely boost the selling point and it was first published at 1967, a good timing too flower people was flourishing in USA I don t even know where to start on this one Roger Zelazny solidified his position on my favorite authors list with Lord of Light It s the best writing of his that I ve come across so far The Plot Long story short, immortals from Earth set up shop on another world and assumed the guise of Hindu gods Sam, aka Buddha, Siddhartha, Kalkin, etc., opposes them in each of his lifetimes, reviving Buddhism as a tool in his quest The final confrontation doesn t disappoint.As other reviewers have sai I don t even know where to start on this one Roger Zelazny solidified his position on my favorite authors list with Lord of Light It s the best writing of his that I ve come across so far The Plot Long story short, immortals from Earth set up shop on another world and assumed the guise of Hindu gods Sam, aka Buddha, Siddhartha, Kalkin, etc., opposes them in each of his lifetimes, reviving Buddhism as a tool in his quest The final confrontation doesn t disappoint.As other reviewers have said, the story is mostly one flashback between two bookend chapters It took a little getting used to The characters of the gods were interesting I d readbooks about Lord Agni and the rest I also liked the pray o mat machines and the Accelerationists, those who wanted to give humanity advanced technology to speed their spiritual developement.All in all, it s sci fi in a fantasy wrapper telling a version of the rise of Buddhism from Hinduism It s one of the best books I read in 2009 Earth Is Long Since Dead On A Colony Planet, A Band Of Men Has Gained Control Of Technology, Made Themselves Immortal, And Now Rule Their World As The Gods Of The Hindu Pantheon Only One Dares Oppose Them He Who Was Once Siddhartha And Is Now Mahasamatman Binder Of Demons, Lord Of Light 30Apr2014 ebook I m reading this with Sci fi Heroic Fantasy grouphttps www.goodreads.com topic show I like it better each time I read it It makes farsense after the first read, like so many of Zelazny s books, so I can concentrateon the variety of flavors Even knowing the ending doesn t hurt Super ending, too.Several have mentioned that the story is confusing If it s your first time reading it, be aware that he intended to publish it as a serial wrote it 30Apr2014 ebook I m reading this with Sci fi Heroic Fantasy grouphttps www.goodreads.com topic show I like it better each time I read it It makes farsense after the first read, like so many of Zelazny s books, so I can concentrateon the variety of flavors Even knowing the ending doesn t hurt Super ending, too.Several have mentioned that the story is confusing If it s your first time reading it, be aware that he intended to publish it as a serial wrote it in 7 different sections to fit in the magazine Parts are written in different styles, too Part 1 is Sam s present, but then he remembers back the next 5 parts are chronological until they catch up to make sense of part 1 On a first read, if you re even slightly lost, I d suggest going back rereading part one before continuing on to part 7 which continues ends the story Weird Yeah, a little, but the first part is a perfect starting point in many ways for many reasons that become clear once the story is done.Can t find an ebook version on here not sure where this one came from Oh well, I ve got a paperback copy here have given away a dozen , so I guess this bit of piracy is OK The publisher should port this to ebook format ASAP I keep a few old favorites on my device for those times when I need to start a new book during lunch or have a particularly rough day need a comfort read This is definitely one I expect I ll read it again in another handful of years, a perennial favorite.Added 31Mar11 It s fantastic that I ve read this book a dozen times or so enjoy it just as much every time I see I last read it 3.5 years ago That s a short amount of time for a re read I wasn t bored at all.Written 30Oct07 Typically, the whole story emerges slowly somewhat confusingly on the first read, but we soon realize that a starship from Earth colonizes an alien planet Fantasy meets SF as Psi powers, often enhanced by technology, allow the crew to impersonate a mutated version of the Hindu gods, lording it over the passengers Mind swapping cloning allow the old crew to become almost immortal, while the passengers are fruitful multiply, spreading across the planet forgetting their roots technology The story centers on Sam, one of the crew, retired god hero He doesn t like the new gods fights heaven through fair foul means view spoiler Even in defeat death, he wins returns, as a thorn in the heavenly side He recreates Buddhism, with himself as the Buddha He makes pacts with demons, the original inhabitants of the planet who found a different path to immortality than body swapping He even allies himself with the blackest demon of all, a Christian hide spoiler Zelazny s mix of science, religion, mysticism politics is fantastic unique, as always His hero, Sam, is insightful, mocking manipulating He subtly guides people events to his advantage, while attempting to topple the gods from their heaven The story isn t told in a straightforward manner big shock but as flashbacks for over half of it It s almost disappointing when the story flows linearly, but the action is too intense the politics too murky to confuse it through further time jumping.I ve read some criticisms of his take on the Eastern religions but, I don t think he made any mistakes He wasn t trying to recreate the religions of today, but show them in a far flung future where they were setup by a bunch power hungry people for their own base purposes He was using them as a vehicle to make his point felt justified changing them to fit.I ve worn out two copies of this book It s fantastic He s one of my favorite authors this is possibly my favorite book 6.0 stars On my list of All Time favorites An absolutely brilliant novel by one of the masters of science fiction This book is as good as SF gets and ranks up their with Dune and Ender s Game among the best ever Unlike those other two books, I do believe that this book is MUCH, MUCH better the second time around The reason for this is that the story jumps around and the background for the story is reavealed slowly so can be a bit confusing at the outset Therefore, my advice would be to r 6.0 stars On my list of All Time favorites An absolutely brilliant novel by one of the masters of science fiction This book is as good as SF gets and ranks up their with Dune and Ender s Game among the best ever Unlike those other two books, I do believe that this book is MUCH, MUCH better the second time around The reason for this is that the story jumps around and the background for the story is reavealed slowly so can be a bit confusing at the outset Therefore, my advice would be to read each chapter of the book AFTER first reading the Wikipedia plot summary for that particular chapter Knowing the general outline of each chapter in my opinion will not in any way take away from the enjoyment of the story and will actually enhance the experience and your appreciation of the story.Winner Hugo Award Best NovelNominee Nebula Award Nest Novel Why could you not have left me as I was, in the sea of being Because the world has need of your humility, your piety, your great teaching and your Machiavellian scheming Zelazny je u Gospodaru svjetlosti odli no obradio temu kolonizacije drugog planeta generacijskim brodom Kolonisti sa umiru e Zemlje do li su na drugi planet, pobili ve inu lokalnog inteligentnog ivota, a ostatak pokorili, kolonizirali planet svojim potomcima, a sebe proglasili bogovima temeljenima na hinduisti koj religWhy could you not have left me as I was, in the sea of being Because the world has need of your humility, your piety, your great teaching and your Machiavellian scheming Zelazny je u Gospodaru svjetlosti odli no obradio temu kolonizacije drugog planeta generacijskim brodom Kolonisti sa umiru e Zemlje do li su na drugi planet, pobili ve inu lokalnog inteligentnog ivota, a ostatak pokorili, kolonizirali planet svojim potomcima, a sebe proglasili bogovima temeljenima na hinduisti koj religiji Oni kontroliraju ivot na planetu, sprje avaju napredak i odre uju tko zaslu uje reinkarnaciju i u kakvo tijelo Reinkarnacija ovdje stvarno radi, jer su kolonisti razvili sistem prebacivanja elektri nih impulsa koji ine osobu iz jednog tijela u drugo Oni koji naljute bogove budu reinkarnirani kao psi, majmuni ili neke druge ivotinje.Kroz taj bo anski ustroj kontrole Zelazny dobro kritizira organizirane religije i njihov uticaj na ljude i dru tvo I to uz odli an humor izme u ostaloga, tu su molitvomati, automati koji se mole umjesto vjernika za kovanicu, a izgledaju sli no kao Jednoruki Jack kockarski automatiI m very gullible when it comes to my own words I believe everything I say, though I know I m a liar Zelazny predivno pi e, roman je pun predivnih opisa, naprimjerDan bitke osvanuo je ru i asto, poput svje eg ugriza na bedru djevice , a neki odlomci i dijalozi su prave male poeti ne minijatureBut I recall the springtime of the world as though it were yesterday those days when we rode together to battle, and those nights when we shook the stars loose from the fresh painted skies Did you not love me then I believe those two loved one another, yes Think carefully Lady, over all that you have said, over all that you have recalled for me this day It is not really the man whom you have been remembering It is the days of carnage through which the two of you rode together The world is come into a tamer age now You long for the fire and the steel of old You think it is the man, but it is the destiny the two of you shared for a time, the destiny which is past, that stirs your mind, and you call it love No, roman nije bez mana Radnja je dosta zbrkana i likovi su slabo definirani, a zbog njihovih estih mijenjanja imena jedni bogovi uzimaju uloge drugih i reinkarnacija, dosta je izazovno pratiti tko je komu to napravio.Gospodar svjetlosti je objavljen i u ediciji SF Masterworks, gdje omot krasi i citat G.R.R.MartinaOne of the five best SF novels ever writtenMartin je kasnije u svojem serijalu Pjesme vatre i leda, kao posvetu, iskoristio Gospodara svjetlosti i Sama kao glavne likove.Gospodar svjetlosti je definitivno jedan od najboljih SF romana koje sam pro itao, iako se mo e itati i definirati i kao fantasy Ovo gore napisano o kolonizaciji i tehnologiji se uje samo usput i nigdje se ne ide u detalje o tehnologijama, neki opisi su dosta poeti ni, tako da bi se neke stvari mogle gledati i kao metafizika, dakle, fantasy.Moram pohvaliti i odli an prijevod Nenada Patruna Na alost lektor je malo zakazao, ima ne to gramati kih i pravopisnih gre aka, no znali su Izvori i gore tiskati.Rijetko kojem romanu dajem ocjenu 5 bez predomi ljanja, a ovo je jedna od tih prilika Iako sad kad itam osvrt imam osje aj da nisam dovoljno nahvalio roman, da nisam uspio prenijeti koliko je dobar S ovim osvrtom sam se dosad najvi e mu io How Lord of Light Didn t Get WrittenRainy, black and white movie evening A 30s style cab pulls up next to a seedy entrance, where a hulking DOORMAN is on guard A FIGURE wearing a trenchcoat and a battered fedora emerges from the cab and hands the driver a bill FIGUREBogart style growlKeep the change, kid Don t blow it all at onceHis trenchcoat falls open Underneath he is dressed like THE LORD BUDDHA Reaction shot of the wide eyed DRIVER DRIVER You re the Mahasamat FIGURE Call me How Lord of Light Didn t Get WrittenRainy, black and white movie evening A 30s style cab pulls up next to a seedy entrance, where a hulking DOORMAN is on guard A FIGURE wearing a trenchcoat and a battered fedora emerges from the cab and hands the driver a bill FIGUREBogart style growlKeep the change, kid Don t blow it all at onceHis trenchcoat falls open Underneath he is dressed like THE LORD BUDDHA Reaction shot of the wide eyed DRIVER DRIVER You re the Mahasamat FIGURE Call me SamBogart style voiceoverThey always called me Mahasamatman I preferred the shorter version.SAMApproaches the entranceI need to talk to ya boss Tell him it s urgentA BEAUTIFUL WOMAN with Barbara Stanwyck hair, also in a trenchcoat, comes out of the door The DOORMAN falls back to let her through SAMVoiceoverThe moment I saw the dame, I knew she was trouble.WOMAN Hello Sam I was wondering when you d show upShe puts her arms around SAM and kisses him A moment later, twoarms come out of her trenchcoat and also wrap around him Then twoSAM suddenly takes off his fedora and pushes her away, causing two of the arms to break off We see that he is a very young but already balding WOODY ALLEN ALLENTrademark New York Jewish whineNo, I can t do this I mean, oh my God, I m betraying my cultural identity What will my analyst sayThe WOMAN angrily takes off her wig, and we see she is DIANE KEATON Twoarms break off her coat WOMAN Jesus Christ, Woody, make your mind up That s the eighth time Are we doing this movie or not VOICE OFF Cut Cut, goddammitThe picture abruptly shifts from black and white to color ALLEN is still having an anxiety attack ALLEN so maybe I should talk this through with Dr Feinstein, I mean, from the Freudian point of viewEnter the PRODUCER, a fat man smoking a cigar PRODUCER Okay Woody, we need to make a call here Don t get me wrong kid, I love your concept The Buddha as a wise cracking private dick It s great But this ain t working Any ideas ALLEN Well we could do it as a science fiction novel PRODUCER You write science fiction, kid ALLEN No but my friend Roger Zelazny doesThe PRODUCER and KEATON look at each other and shrug PRODUCER Okay, why not Tell him to come see me Monday Ovo je definitivno moj omiljeni pisac Ta ka People left the dying Earth and found a habitable planet Thanks to their advanced technology they conquered or subdued local life forms and established themselves as dominant race The highly advanced technology allowed some of them literally play gods using Hindu mythology as the basis We all know the power corrupts, so the whole system became very corrupted very fast Enter a guy who decided to change the way things work His name is Mahasamatman, or Sam for short this is how he prefers to People left the dying Earth and found a habitable planet Thanks to their advanced technology they conquered or subdued local life forms and established themselves as dominant race The highly advanced technology allowed some of them literally play gods using Hindu mythology as the basis We all know the power corrupts, so the whole system became very corrupted very fast Enter a guy who decided to change the way things work His name is Mahasamatman, or Sam for short this is how he prefers to call himself To the simple people he is much better known as Buddha, or Lord of Light Roger Zelazny attempted to create a very ambitious project a science fiction novel basically showing the emergence of Buddhism from Hinduism while preserving the philosophy of the religions He succeeded The novel won a Hugo Award for best novel I saw people call this the legendary science fiction classic just take a look at the cover of the latest paperback edition It also earned Zelazny the status of Master of science fiction and showed his practically unrivaled imagination This is not an easy read at times It is not boring, however by any definition of the world I would not call the novel to be the best introduction to Zelazny s writings, but it is a must read for any person with even the passing interest in science fiction or fantasy 5 very well deserved stars is the final rating of the classic book I first read this book back in the late 60s, when it was brand new and nothing like it had appeared in SF before I found it brilliant and mysterious, the latter in part because back in my teens I knew so little about the Hindu and Buddhist religions and myths Zelazny was spinning off I am at least somewhat less ignorant nowadays, if not hugely so.I still think the book is brilliant, but not nearly so mysterious It s a bit like looking at faded pictures of your parents, and realizing you are n I first read this book back in the late 60s, when it was brand new and nothing like it had appeared in SF before I found it brilliant and mysterious, the latter in part because back in my teens I knew so little about the Hindu and Buddhist religions and myths Zelazny was spinning off I am at least somewhat less ignorant nowadays, if not hugely so.I still think the book is brilliant, but not nearly so mysterious It s a bit like looking at faded pictures of your parents, and realizing you are now older than they were then.One of the intellectual pleasures of this book for the reader is the putting together of the world building set up, its mysteries gradually revealed, so any thumbnail sketch of same acts as a pretty big spoiler But I want to make some comments below that depend on them, so I will do the synopsis at the end, and anyone spoiler sensitive to a half century old book can stop reading in time.I was immediately, upon this reread the first in decades, and I think the first since I started my own writing career conscious of the voice, which is omniscient, with its fascinating strengths and interesting abilities to hide weaknesses Omniscient tends to be emotionally distancing, but has the advantage of being able to pack huge amounts of information into little page time, allowing for a lot of rich and relatively, because this is Zelazny, who prudently explains as little as possible detailed world building.The episodic structure, starting the story near its end and proceeding through assorted novella length flashbacks, stems from its being something of a fix up, incorporating stories that were originally sold separately to various magazines, I believe It all pulled together beautifully, however, managing to bethan the sum of its parts.The narrator s style might be described as high falutin smart ass , I suppose, florid and often beautiful language undercut by jokes and running jokes, allowing the writer to be poetic without damaging his guy street cred.The sexism fairy has struck this book pretty hard in the intervening decades since my last read, I m afraid I have a high tolerance for this because I remember the original social context, and Lord of Light was hugely better than some other books of the time But the core emotional story is undoubtedly a bromance, where the two generationally dissassociated not quite rivals for a woman s love, Sam and Yama, actually end up with their most important relationship being with each other After the climax they end up off having new adventures free of any taint of domesticity, leaving the female leg of the putative love triangle entirely disempowered and put in her place Grant you, Candi Kali is a well observed example of what I have dubbed the Borderline Personality Girlfriend, which does add complexity Sam is I think correct in his evaluation that any attempt at a long term relationship with her cannot end well, and he speaks from experience But it is very convenient for the narrative that this frees our main guy pair from any on going duties in the matter.It s a very blokey book Most of the chapter climaxes are epic battles, big fights to establish male male bio social dominance, aka politics For a narrative inspired by some of the ur sources of Indo European patriarchal tradition, this is actually spot on Only the few female figures who fight guy style get to share center stage for long, or else are support staff Well, it s a war story this is sort of fair.World building spoilers now The background is this alien and eerie planet was settled many generations earlier by a shipload of mainly South Asian colonists At the same time, technology was developed for electronically magically uploading personalities into new, fresh bodies, conveniently grown to adult size in vats As time went on, mutant superpowers arose among some of the colonists crew, and a cadre of same set themselves up as the Hindu pantheon, controlling reincarnation and keeping all the high tech to and for themselves Sam, our hero and formerly apparently the colony ship s engineer, given his powers over electrical phenomena is increasingly offended by this, and sets himself up as a one man but several generations long revolution against heaven, using Buddhism as his template for resistance His banner is material progress, denied by the gods who go around suppressing any tech that is discovered or rediscovered by the peons So far so good I, personally, am heavily in favor of education, flush toilets, and electricity for all.But to anyone with some biology background, the existence and maintenance of the wide spread reincarnation technology is wildly contradictory to the posited keep the masses ignorant trope I really don t see how this society, were it anything like economically realistic, could have it both ways, except by authorial fiat So the world building falls down at its central conceit.Some of the underlying SF tropes, fun as they are in context, also get the hairy eyeball from me these days The big one, of course, is the denial of biology, reproduction, and death as the substrate of human existence Death is dodged by the reincarnation tech Family and women become unimportant as one buys one s new, unrelated body from a vat, without anyone visible having to do any scut work to make it possible This embodies what seems to me a largely young male SF ideal that imagines the self as generated from one s own forehead at the age of twenty two, without any status draining obligations to any other human beings, especially women, for one s existence Very solipsistic Very common in the genre, and I don t really have a solid explanation of why it is so popular, but it has been popular for a very long time.Despite mymature reservations, I found that bits and scenes and characters and dialogue from Lord of Light have lived vividly in my memory for decades I highly recommend the book as a piece of SF history and a fun read.Ta, L And for another bit of random SF history, I note in passing that one of my copies of the book is from Gordy Dickson s library, sold off after his death

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